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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: generate umlaut over telnet?
Date: 10 Dec 1999 21:11:12 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
In article <1999Dec10.155004.1@eisner>,
Bob Koehler <koehler@eisner.decus.org> wrote:
: In article <82r4ia$a8b$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>,
: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes:
: > In article <1999Dec10.091814.1@eisner>,
: >
: > It depends on your Telnet client. I can speak for C-Kermit; if you tell
: > it to "set command bytesize 8" and "set terminal bytesize 8", this gives
: > a clear 8-bit path between your keyboard and screen and the remote host,
: > and you should be able to see your Umlaute. (In C-Kermit 7.0:
:
: TELNET is defined as a 7-bit protocol. Is Kermit encoding to get around
: this, or just assuming that the 8 bits will go across correctly? I have
: no control over the TELNET server code, it appears to be Multinet
: 4.0(118), nor over the equipment in between.
:
Most telnet servers allow 8 bits. Most clients use 7 by default, and some
of them give no option to use 8. Kermit uses 7 by default but lets you use
eight, and if the server supports 8-bit data, you're in business. If it
doesn't, you can force the connection into binary mode, which by definition
allows 8-bit data. But I haven't yet encountered a situation where this is
necessary.
It works, really; I use 8-bit Telnet connections to work with text in
Spanish, German, even Russian all the time -- with a variety of hosts on
the far end -- VMS, UNIX, DG, ... Kermit knows Telnet protocol and
escaping rules.
Another choice, if you don't trust Telnet, is Rlogin. C-Kermit 7.0 is also
an Rlogin client. But that requires privileges because in VMS and UNIX,
the Rlogin socket is privileged.
- Frank